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Re: [patch] enhance powerd(8) to handle max temperature



M. Warner Losh wrote:
In message: <46B15166_(_dot_)_1070305_(_at_)_elischer_(_dot_)_org>
            Julian Elischer <julian_(_at_)_elischer_(_dot_)_org> writes:
: Garrett Cooper wrote:
: > M. Warner Losh wrote:
: >> In message: <46AE8F78_(_dot_)_1060203_(_at_)_root_(_dot_)_org>
: >>             Nate Lawson <nate_(_at_)_root_(_dot_)_org> writes:
: >> : Hajimu UMEMOTO wrote:
: >> : >>>>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:31:33 +0200
: >> : >>>>>> Pietro Cerutti <gahr_(_at_)_gahr_(_dot_)_ch> said:
: >> : > gahr> My patch is really just a first draft that I wrote in order : >> to have : >> : > gahr> feedbacks on the general idea to implement a temperature : >> controlling : >> : > gahr> system inside powerd, and doesn't implement hysteresis as : >> you noted, and
: >> : > gahr> your feedback is that it's not a good idea, which I respect.
: >> : > : > It is rather backward, IMHO.  I did implement a passive cooling
: >> : > feature as an enhancement of powerd(8) like you did, during initial
: >> : > phases.  Then, I implemented it in our kernel as a result.
: >> : : I'll take a look at your patch. Umemoto-san is right in that you : >> really
: >> : want the kernel to control cooling.  What happens if powerd dies/hangs
: >> : and your system burns up?  Passive cooling is often a last resort to
: >> : keep the system from overheating.
: >>
: >> I keep getting the system shutting down on my HP by FreeBSD because
: >> the temperature exceeds the _CRT value.  Maybe there's something wrong
: >> with my values, since it happens a lot:
: >>
: >> hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0
: >> hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10
: >> hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 0
: >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 0.0C
: >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1
: >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1
: >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0
: >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 90.0C
: >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1
: >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 94.0C
: >> hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 40.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
: >>
: >> Note: temperature is always 0.0C.
: >>
: >> What can I do to help my situation, if I really want the kernel doing
: >> the cooling?
: >>
: >> Warner
: >> : > : > Wow, something's really wrong with those calculated temperatures. At : > that value most of the plastic and weaker circuitry should have fused : > together =\. : : It would be interesting to see what the values are just after booting, : or even earlier if you can get the bios to give temperatures : (some MBs have that possibility)

The values are always the same.  ACx is always 40C -1 ... and
temperature is always 0.

Warner

Not all temperature sensors report accurate values, just like fans' rpm levels.
-Garrett
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